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吴语区

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容易转错 ╱ 容易轉錯

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现用中文简体。倪也呒拨中文维基个台湾问题搭仔粤语维基个香港澳门问题。繁简转换交关烦难个，容易转错。　

現用中文簡體。倪也嘸撥中文維基個台灣問題搭仔粵語維基個香港澳門問題。繁簡轉換交關煩難個，容易轉錯。

请尽量避免建立、翻译有争议的条目

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吴语版维基仍在初创期，参与编辑的人员非常少，所以提高参与人员数量应当比扩大条目覆盖广度的优先级高。因为众所周知的原因，有争议的条目，特别是关涉政治的条目对于用户的访问和参与量会造成极大的损害，所以恳请您尽量避免建立、翻译这类条目，谢谢！ --Lieukehli 2008年8月29日 （礼拜五） 05:42 （UTC）

苏州地铁4号线 (Line 4 of Suzhou Metro)

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Hi,

I do not live in Suzhou City, but some one told me they indeed had planned to build such a subway there, but in the article it said:

2007年苏州新建个地铁。

——it is subway newly build in Suzhou in 2007


        but in fact line 1 just started underground tunnel digging this month and is scheduled to be completed in 2012; then line 2 should be started in perhaps 2011, and line 4 should be started well after 2012 . . .

        Shall we keep an article that talks about things in the future ??? 早稻田 2008年9月1日 （礼拜一） 10:38 （UTC）

        It's possible to keep an article on a project of building, if there is something to say about it. --Hercule 2008年9月1日 (礼拜一) 13:45 (UTC)

        Dis tonc, mercy pour rayer les "汉奸电影" category . . .

        I don't understand, was if right or wrong to delete this empty cat? --Hercule 2008年9月1日 (礼拜一) 13:45 (UTC)

管理员

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Hello,

My remarks:

Regards --Hercule 2008年9月2日 （礼拜两） 09:51 （UTC）

I moved the page to Wikipedia:Administrator because it's not an article. A better name should be found --Hercule 2008年9月19日 (礼拜五) 12:53 (UTC)

on the front page

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Hi,
it said that ——。。。It was estimated in 1991 that there were 87 million speakers of Wu language, making it the 2nd most populous language in China's territory and the 10th language in the world。。。

now the time is 17 years later, there must be 90+ million speakers, but only one regular contributor who can speak the language （thats not me）; tonight we finally get pass 2000 articles, see the screen dump here 。。。

早稻田 2008年9月5日 （礼拜五） 09:20 （UTC）

 

Congratualition. It's great that the 2000 articles are riched. But there are still a lot of pages that are not articles (see Special:ShortPages). I cleaned up the pages about number with no content, I do know if the pages about dates with no content should be deleted too. As I don't speak wuu it's hard to me to establish if a page should be deleted or not. Would you agree heping me? You just need to use {{delete}} on the page to delete.
There a many more real article now, more than when I came to this site. I congratulate you. I'm sure there are at least 1000 real articles, about 500 stubs, and 500 page that should be deleted to create red link and invitate someone to create articles.
--Hercule 2008年9月5日 (礼拜五) 12:44 (UTC)


so what is a "Short article" then, with less than 30 ╱ 100 ╱ 300 ╱ 1000 ╱ bytes ?

早稻田 2008年9月5日 (礼拜五) 13:10 (UTC)

A short article is a page when you have at least some information to learn (say for exemple XXX is a chinese actor, mainly know for his role in YYY. It can be highlighted with {{stub}}.
A short page with no interrest would be XXX is an actor, or The 1st or February is the first day of the month of febrary. The fact that there is a plan is not sufficient to make an article.
The problem with short pages is that the link appears in bleue, and then you think there is already an article. So you don't go to create at least a stub.
For exemple the creation of pages about dates at the begining of a projet is a non sense. It's better to have a certain amount of articles linking to the date. The you go to the date page, use Special:WhatLinksHere and add the linked informations on this article.
If the page already exists you don't know what is done and what have to be done.
The fact to create short pages with many interwikis is also stupid because it generates many updates on many other wikipedias (to add or update page) whereas there is no informations to give.
I hope you understand my point of view.
Because I don't read wuu, I don't know if 小城之春 (that seem to be an article) or 丁俊晖 (that seem to be short page) are article or not. ;)
--Hercule 2008年9月5日 (礼拜五) 14:55 (UTC)

Why do you create non-Wu entries in the Wu Wikipedia?

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It does not make any sense. --Lieukehli 2008年9月8日 （礼拜一） 00:49 （UTC）



do u mean 运动员 ?? --

早稻田 2008年9月8日 (礼拜一) 00:57 (UTC)

You or your other accounts have created dozens of English or 汉语拼音 entries, and athlete is merely one of them. Would you please explain why you think these entries deserve a slot in the Wu Wikipedia? --Lieukehli 2008年9月8日 (礼拜一) 01:06 (UTC)
Making English redirection links for each entry is unacceptable and unnecessary. You can follow the interwiki links from the English edition to reach the Wu counterpart. And if you really need an alternative method to input Chinese characters, there are plenty of web-page-based inputing tools without asking you to install any software, e.g., http://www.inputking.com/. Therefore, your templates are not necessary either. And please be reminded that your templates have been making the source code unreadable for other editors, which set a huge barriers to new users and discourage the collaboration.--Lieukehli 2008年9月8日 (礼拜一) 01:37 (UTC)
请立即停止使用个种方式破坏吴语维基百科个可读性搭仔可编辑性，特别是考虑到侬对吴语一知半解个情况，个种做法个破坏性外加大。假使现在个情况呒不改变，伲会得视作spam处理！
Please stop at once your damage to the readability and editability of Wu Wikipedia! If the current situation is not changed in the future, we'll have to consider it as a kind of spam and reluctantly take corresponding measures to stop it--sklunsgrad 2008年9月8日 (礼拜一) 16:34 (UTC)

Liu Qing (athlete)

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the title is now——刘清 (田径运动员), the first 2 chinese characters is the name, it is a super common chinese name; the word between brackets means athelete.

Now how do I use {{expr: and {{PAGENAME}} to display only the name "刘清" at the beginning of this page ?

In Visual Basic I would had written:

name1 = "刘清 (田径运动员)"
name2 = Trim（Left（name1, Instr（name1, "("）-1））

Mercy !! 早稻田 2008年9月7日 （礼拜天） 23:08 （UTC）

In this case you can't use {{PAGENAME}}. In a general way, using {{PAGENAME}} is a bad idea in an article. As well as using templates for words. This makes the syntax of the article harder to edit.
For the models, you should use subst: before the name (exemple: {{subst:person}})
{{PAGENAME}} should be reserved for the templates
--Hercule 2008年9月8日 (礼拜一) 09:55 (UTC)

User contribution

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Hello,

you can find the whole list of you contributions are available here. To improve the search you can use your watchlist. you can edit your preferences to automaticly add pages your edit/rename/create （as you want） to your watch list.

If you use more than one account it's harder. If needed I could try to create the list for you. But you should use a unique account --Hercule 2008年9月8日 （礼拜一） 20:30 （UTC）

Expand templates

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To expand templates you can use subst, but if your template use a template, you should try this tool. You just need to paste the code to expand （take care to not include templates such as banners or {{stub}}. Then you can copy the code at the bottom.

Please don't use HTML code in articles. The media wiki has a lot of fuctionnalities to order a page:

'' is like <i>
use a blanck line to replace <P>
* creates cells

and so on.

I also have seen you created {{Woman 1500m}} whereas you've been asked to stop creating templates. Next time I'll block you for one day. We will cleanup your uneccessary templates, so don't create any more word or sentence templates.

Regards --Hercule 2008年9月8日 （礼拜一） 22:40 （UTC）

I'm listing the templates that should be deleted. My bot will subst them when selected --Hercule 2008年9月8日 (礼拜一) 23:34 (UTC)

Characters

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Monsieur,

You may have noticed that I have been experimenting the {{subst: it really works, I am very happy !! Why can't we use robot to expand all of them ??

You see, in Wu, we must use [[Template:簡体字|simplified chinese characters]] to write articles, so 開幕禮 and 开幕礼 both means opening ceremoney we must use the later. so is 國際 （international） and 国际. IT IS tough for us pple who lives outside of china —— we are familiar with one set of characters but not the other. I had already raised the idea of automatically transforming traditional chinese characters to simplified characters in the tea house but nobody answered / considered.

That's why I started the character transforming templates in the 1st place. 早稻田 2008年9月8日 （礼拜一） 23:30 （UTC）

容易转错 ╱ 容易轉錯

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现用中文简体。倪也呒拨中文维基个台湾问题搭仔粤语维基个香港澳门问题。繁简转换交关烦难个，容易转错。　

現用中文簡體。倪也嘸撥中文維基個台灣問題搭仔粵語維基個香港澳門問題。繁簡轉換交關煩難個，容易轉錯。

simplified chinese
（Correct set） 		traditional chinese
（Incorrect set）
个
陆
转
错
现
简
体
呒
拨
维
台
湾
问
题
门
转
换
关
烦
难
個
陸
轉
錯
現
簡
體
嘸
撥
維
臺
灣
問
題
門
轉
換
關
煩
難


the 2 paragraphs above, one is right and one is "wrong"——because it is written in traditional chinese characters. if it is too tough to look at for you, just look at this  :
奧斯陸 ╱ Oslo ╱ 奧斯陆。。。I do not want to raise the flag and barack for one or curse another one, but it is crutial that character transforming needs to be available in Wu wiki; otherwise many pple are going to make mistake when typing.

I will find a way to get over other issues, or simply stop coming to here 。。。 Mercy ! 早稻田

First step would be to take a communauty decision to decide which characters have to be used here. If 開幕禮 and 开幕礼 are both correct, the, the communauty must decide which one will be used for this wikipedia. In french we have french from France, Belgium, Switzerland and Quebec. For 80, quatre-vingt, octante and huitante are correct. But we decided that we need to use quatre-vingt.
When this is decided, if confusional caracters can be identified (ie is 陸 incorrect every time?) then we can use a bot to list articles using them.
My bot will make a substitution for all templates that will be deleted. But it can't determine if a template must be subst or not ({{stub}} must never be subst). If the communauty decide to use some templates to write words, then must be clarified :
  • What must be the name of the template?
  • In which category must the template be stored?
In this cas we could use a bot to periodicly subst these templates. But this has to be decided by the communauty. Launch a discussion in the tea house and ask for the admin to say what they think about it.
--Hercule 2008年9月9日 (礼拜两) 07:52 (UTC)

伊浬（渠俚/伊俚）

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Hi, from where did you get the information that 伊浬 stands for there? Because I cannot find this word in my dictionaries. The proper word for there is either 伊（渠）面 or 伊（渠）搭, which is as what my dialect says. And 俚 turns pronoun to its plural form when it following 我、伲; it has nothing to do with 渠（伊） in my knowledge. But Wu has so many dialects, maybe 伊俚 is used somewhere, so if you have reliable source, please let me know. Otherwise I would like to rename that entry to a more universal word as what I found in the dictionaries.

ok, Agreed !! let me know you have done that !!

Regards

--Lieukehli 2008年9月11日 （礼拜四） 05:26 （UTC）

      I got the example sentense ——近个几年把来，伊俚 （??浬??） 个经济发展蛮快个。。。 from an article; then I kind of guess what that meaned. but I can not tell you what exactly the title of that article is now, except that i really did not make it up.

      searched on 经济发展 and got no result, then did a search on 经济 and got so many. If that article made a mistake then I made a mistake for quoting.

      as you know （perhaps） I learned Wu totally from neighbours conversations and articles posted here, I do not have books ╱ dictionaries like you.

      Thx!! 早稻田

characters conversion

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I've done a first test, see the log （User:HerculeBot/Logs） and give me your opinion about it （on my talk page）

In your list there was 2 different conversions for character 無. So I removed it.

I still have to manange the use of templates, and the possibility to voluntary keep traditional characters.

--Hercule 2008年9月12日 （礼拜五） 11:53 （UTC）

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